Past Dialogues

Can We Know More Than We Can Prove?: A Conversation on Faith, Science, and Other Ways of Knowing

Monday, April 24th 2017, 7:00-9:00pm

If a ‘religion’ is defined to be a system of ideas that contains unprovable statements, then Gödel taught us that mathematics is not only a religion, it is the only religion that can prove itself to be one.
~John D. Barrow, The Artful Universe (1995)

If you are a STEM graduate student, post-doc, or faculty in New York City, you are cordially invited to join us for our next SCI+FAI Socratic Happy Hour.

What do I know? What do you know? What does any of us really know?

Some, the French philosopher René Descartes most famously, have answered those questions: Not much. We really only know what we can prove. Others, however, like the Scottish philosopher Thomas Reid, have said that we know a great deal more than we can prove, albeit imperfectly and fallibly.

Where does math and science fall in this discussion? Is mathematics the gold standard of solid, unimpeachable knowledge? Are scientific findings more reliable than, say, our moral intuitions or our aesthetic judgements? And what about religion? Must religious belief be provable before it can be rational?

If you are a STEM graduate student, post-doc, or faculty in New York City, you are cordially invited to join us to grapple with these questions and more over hors d’oeuvres and wine on Monday, April 24th. Email us at for location details and to RSVP.

Here is the link to some of the readings we will be discussing.

This Socratic Happy Hour dialogue is part of our ongoing SCI+FAI project at New York University. SCI+FAI is a community of graduate students at New York University who are working to foster deeper conversations around the big questions in science and religion. These dialogues are sponsored by Fuller Theological Seminary’s STEAM Project (Science & Theology for Emerging Adult Ministries), the John Templeton Foundation, and InterVarsity’s Graduate & Faculty Ministries.

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